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Stupid Things People Say About Gays - Part 7

November 20, 2008 By: jaysays Category: Things People Say About Gays

Recently, a group of “Christians” were run out of San Francisco’s Castro District by a “Gay Mob”.  I love the elevation this story has received in calling it a “gay mob.”  Video footage of the incident shows a group of people being escorted by police while a group of homosexuals (and/or those supporting homosexual rights) are chanting things such as “stay out of our neighborhoods if you don’t like us.”  Christian right-wing organizations are appalled and outraged that they were not allowed by this mob to express their religious freedom.  Well, there’s a taste of your own medicine for you.  This incident has inspired this issue of “Stupid Things People Say About Gays”.

Cute how they tell us to “stay out of our neighbor hood if you don’t like us” My response, stay out of my country if you don’t like us! OUR country was Christian before it was filled with fags.
They are allowed to be disgusting in public, we are allowed to pray in public.

We have the last laugh in all of this, they’re the ones with no future. — genesis311311

First, I feel the need to say (although it may be considered a “bounces off me and sticks to you” sort of argument) that the welcoming of the “Christian” group into the Castro District was very similar to the welcoming bestowed upon homosexuals by “Christian” churches.  Everyone is welcome in the “Christian” church as long as you become an “ex-gay.”  The torment the “Christian” church berated on the homosexual is far more horrifying than “stay out” if you don’t like us.

Secondly, your comment stating “stay out of my country if you don’t like us” and using the argument that the United States was founded as a “Christian” nation obviously demonstrates that you have never been to a history class outside of “Christian” school (or just didn’t pay attention), never read a book not acceptable by the “Christian” teaching and have never had an independent thought which did not conform entirely to the way you are taught.  Examples of the founding of the United States not being on behalf of “Christianity” include:

  • The Declaration of Independence begins, “”We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”  I note that is says “they are endowed by their Creator” rather than they are endowed by my God.  Although it is unarguable that most of the founding fathers were “Christian”, it seems that they intended to leave God out of the letter of the law.
  • The United States Constitution fails entirely to mention God.  It is an obvious omission and certainly was not an error.  Most historians and even theologians believe that the omission was intended to prevent a theocracy wherein the church would have more power than the President - as was the case with the Catholic church’s involvement in politics in Europe.
  • “In God We Trust” was placed on currency in the U.S. during the Civil War, not upon the founding of our Nation.
  • “Under God” was not in the Pledge of Allegiance until the McCarthy era [1954] when it was added.
  • The Treaty of Tripoli, signed in 1797 (note: that was not long after the 1776 “founding” of our nation) by Pickering and then President John Adams  states, “As the Government of the United States…is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion–as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility of Musselmen–and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.” [emphasis added]
  • In 1786, an Act for Establishing Religious Freedom (Jefferson again) was passed in the Assembly of Virginia.  It stated, in parts:

…that our civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions

…that the impious presumption of legislators and rulers, civil as well as ecclesiastical, who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavoring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world…

…that to suffer the civil magistrate to intrude his powers into the field of opinion and to restrain the profession or propagation of principles, on the supposition of their ill tendency, is a dangerous fallacy, which at once destroys all religious liberty, because he being of course judge of that tendency, will make his opinions the rule of judgment, and approve or condemn the sentiments of others only as they shall square with or differ from his own…

…that the rights hereby asserted are of the natural rights of mankind, and that if any act shall be hereafter passed to repeal the present or to narrow its operation, such act will be an infringeme nt of natural right.

See: “The Writings of Thomas Jefferson Memorial Edition” (ME), Andrew A. Lipscomb and Albert Ellery Bergh, Editors, 20 Volumes., Washington, D.C., 1903-04. Volume II, Appendix, pp 300-303

I highly recommend those that feel the United States was founded as a religious nation to see Our Godless Constitution, by Brooke Allen and the countless books, articles and information available (and cited above).  I also refer them to the U.S. Constitution for more precedence regarding this issue.

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Stupid Things People Say About Gays – Part 5

November 19, 2008 By: jaysays Category: Uncategorized

Content PG13 (or R for the ultra conservative):  I warn in advance that the “f” word is used in this posting.  If you are afraid of seeing one of the “seven words you can’t say on t.v.” in print, then please consider reading other posts on this site.

Sifting through all the negative stereotypes and idiotic comments regarding gay people has sent me on a path of self discovery.  During my quest, I discovered that putting hand warmers in your underwear on a cold night feels really good, I also discovered that there are short winded homophobics in the world.

An example can be found in the following quote:

fuck all faggots period.
burn in hell motherfuckers!!!!!!!!!! Shadowhound (23 years old)

This is one of my personal favorites as it truly shows how enlightened people have become.  “Fuck all faggots period.”  I can’t decide which part of that is my absolute favorite, the “Fuck all faggots” or the “period”.  The reason this is so fantastic is because if Shadowhound were to actually fuck all faggots, he would be a “faggot”.  I’ve debated whether this was intentionally idiotic or if he really did not realize that the very thing he was arguing against would result from the proposed action to stop it.

So, to you Mr. Shadowhound (and as a response to “burn in hell motherfuckers”) I say, “Pray that you’ll stop believing in God.” – certainly as oxymoronic as your proposal.

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Thou Shalt Not Kill - Moses “Teish” Cannon

November 18, 2008 By: jaysays Category: news

The small amount of media coverage regarding the murder of Moses “Teish” Cannon has been confusing at best and unremarkable at most.  What is known is that Teish, who self-identified as a woman, was murdered in Syracuse, New York on November 16, 2008 after being invited by a family friend to a party.  Currently, the only motive reported for the terrible crime is that she was “gay.”

This is where the news media stumbles and I stumble in an effort to provide the proper respects to Teish’s memory.  Was Teish a transgendered person who, indeed, identified the former himself as a herself, or did Teish identify as a gay man?  The answer to this question is only relevant for purposes of writing this article and adding yet another victim to the growing list of persons murdered because of their sexuality or gender identity.

I feel great sorrow for Teish’s family and friends, and I extend my most heartfelt sympathies.  The same sorrow I have felt for countless other victims of senseless crime.

Police are still investigating the murder in order to “decide” whether it is a Hate Crime.  Well, the glass slipper fits - wear it.

News coverage of Teish’s murder has been negligible; another slap in the face to a community already feeling the effects of hate after the passage of Proposition 8 in California.  The majority has taken our rights and our children and our brothers and sisters, yet we still stand strong.  We too shall overcome.

News 10 Now | 24 Hour Local News | ALL NEWS | Vigil held for possible hate crime victim.

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Stupid Things People Say About Gays - Part 4

November 18, 2008 By: jaysays Category: Things People Say About Gays

Peaceful demonstrations on the part of homosexuals took place all over the country on November 15, 2008.  The demonstrations where part of Join the Impact’s National Day of Protest.  We must remember that educating our governments people will effectually educate our government.

But how do we change the minds of those that have spent the last 200-ish years being taught that “God hates fags” without seemingly challenging God and alienating ourselves from those that are taught “God is love”?

During a September 14, 2008 appearance with Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell stated that the fall of the Twin Towers was a result of:

“…throwing God out of the public square.  The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way — all of them who have tried to secularize America — I point the finger in their face and say, ‘You helped this happen.’

Many gays and lesbians were mortified by such comments by evangelicals after the fall of the Twin Towers and even more startled when the levees broke in New Orleans and similar accusations were made.

On November 4th California voters voted pro-chicken but anti-gay.  Was God angry?  You betcha - California is now burning.  Could this be because California voters felt that gays weren’t equal in Gods eyes?  God now seeks his vengence on California for breaching the main foundations of Christian ideology, “Love thy neighbor.”

I can imagine that evangelicals will disagree.  They will argue that God is thankful for following “his” will being done in California.  Perhaps they will even state that the cause of the fire was not God’s anger, but Satan attempting to destroy the God fearing people of California.  Or perhaps the argument will be that it is God’s anger, but not because of gays, but because the vote for Chicken’s Rights really pissed him off when chickens are clearly satanic fowl.

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Stupid Things People Say About Gays - Part 3

November 17, 2008 By: jaysays Category: Things People Say About Gays

In this issue of Stupid Things People Say About Gays, I’m going to focus a little more on the “Gay Marriage” issue which has obtained wide news coverage over the past couple of weeks.

Focus on Families, a purportedly Christian organization, has released arguments against Gay Marriage and publishes them on their website.  The following Argument is taken directly from that site:

An even greater objective of the homosexual movement is to end the state’s compelling interest in marital relationships altogether. After marriages have been redefined, divorces will be obtained instantly, will not involve a court, and will take on the status of a driver’s license or a hunting permit. With the family out of the way, all rights and privileges of marriage will accrue to gay and lesbian partners without the legal entanglements and commitments heretofore associated with it.

This is obviously an argument of the desperate which has no fact basis whatsoever.  Last I checked, Gay Marriage did not seek to overthrow heterosexual marriage.  Certainly their have been many jokes thrown about stating that if gay’s can’t get married, heterosexuals should not be allowed to and thus the law would be equal to all parties.  Regrettably, the consequences would be all incompassing - loss of jobs resulting from no Family Court system, no “wedding planners”, less use of the local VFW hall for receptions, etc… etc…

What Focus on the Family has missed in their argument is that gays are asking for the right to GET married, not the right to dismantle marriage.  They also don’t realize that this argument completely voids the argument that marriage is not a civil issue.  They clearly state that the state has a, “compelling interest in marital relationships altogether.”  That compelling interest is exactly why all committed couples should be given the equal status of “married” by the state.

We’ve also heard a lot of comments about “redefining marriage.”  Although I can’t argue that marriage will in some ways require redefining, I do deny that any such redefinition would degrade heterosexual marriage.  This argument is a scare tactic used to propogate homophobia in the most grotesque sense - vaguely.  “You are trying to redefine marriage!!!!”  Legal definitions have changed tremedously throughout history.  Our founders smartly wrote the Constitution and Declaration of Independence so that laws could morph into a working, united, equal system.  If legal definitions did not evolve and change, the words “negro” and “colored” would still be used to define “African Americans” by law and the word “property” would still refer to African Americans.  Personally, I’m thrilled that such words are redefinable.  We the homos of the world should not let such vague allegations serve to threaten us, but embrace them - “Yes, we do want to redefine marriage, just like they redefined property.”

I can’t even fathom the accusation that divorces “will take on the status” of driver’s licenses or hunting licenses.  Is their anything intelligble in that false, completely unfounded accusation?  That allegation makes it sound as though gay people are looking to have a drive-thru wedding chapel/divorce court (which drive-thru wedding chapels already exist in Vegas without the help of gays).  Heterosexuals are doing a fine job of destroying the institution of marriage themselves.  Adding countless, loving people into the category of married will not harm, but strengthen that instutition.

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Join the Impact - National Day of Protest

November 15, 2008 By: jaysays Category: news, politics

I hope this momentum lasts in the gay community. A National Day of Protest has been planned for November 15th at 1:30 CT (check here for your here  local information).

Yours truly will be attending.  I just hope I can decide on a sign.

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Stupid Things People Say About Gays - Part 2

November 13, 2008 By: jaysays Category: Things People Say About Gays, politics

In the second post exposing the stupid things people say about gays, we will analyze the following comment:

Just like it’s common sense that gay behavior is unnatural. Why can’t we just put all gays on a deserted island and see how long they last? hmon20002000
(28 years old)

Let’s start at the beginning, “…gay behavior is unnatural.” Seed Magazine took an in depth look at homosexuality in the animal kingdom, and, I believe it is indisputable (except by the illiterate) that the animal kingdom can be used to demonstrate what is natural. The study found that Giraffes, Big Horn Sheep, dolphins, killer whales, gray whales, West Indian manatees and others participate in and ejaculate from homosexual activities. Japanese macaques are lesbians, and the closest living primate to humans, the Bonobos engage in lesbian sexual encounters every 2 hours. It also explains that homosexuality has been documented in over 450 vertebrate species. That’s a lot of unnatural behavior in nature. The article is nearly 3,000 words, you can view it here. For further evidence that homosexuality naturally occurs, please watch the following video:

As to the second part of the stupid comment by hmon20002000, “Why can’t we just put all gays on a deserted island and see how long they last?” The answer is clear, we would survive a very very long time. Not only because the greatest gay anthem ever written or performed is entitled, “I Will Survive” but also because we have lesbians. I am a believer that the lesbian is the true root of the homosexual community. Lesbians, stereotypically, grow things, like herbs and corn. They know soil - and guess what, we gay men know a thing or two about plants - just ask any florist. So yes, we would eat… likely an organically grown assortment of fruits and vegetables which will keep our lipids low and we will outlive all heterosexual McDonald’s eating Americans… on our own Isle of Lesbos.

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Connecticut to Allow Gay Marriages as of Today, November 12, 2008

November 12, 2008 By: jaysays Category: Gay Marriage Rights, politics

Today, “Gay Marriage” took a step forward, helping to equalize the standings from the backward step of California’s passage of Proposition 8.  Effective today, Connecticut has become state number two in the United States to allow same-sex couples marriage rights; Massachusetts is the only other state to allow for such marriage rights.

Several States allow for Civil Unions or recognize marriages performed in other jurisdictions.  For example, if a same sex couple were to marry in Connecticut or Massachusetts, the State of New Mexico would recognize the marriage, the law applicable states:

All marriages celebrated beyond the limits of this state, which are valid according to the laws of the country wherein they were celebrated or contracted, shall be likewise valid in this state, and shall have the same force as if they had been celebrated in accordance with the laws in force in this state. - NMSA

Other states which recognize domestic partnership or civil union include Vermont, New Jersey and New Hampshire.  Several jurisdictions offer limited recognition of same sex couplings such as Maine, Washington, Maryland and the District of Columbia.

For more information on the Connecticut’s legalization of same-sex marriage, see CNN’s article: Connecticut Supreme Court legalizes same-sex marriage - CNN.com.

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Stupid Things People Say About Gays - Part 1

November 11, 2008 By: jaysays Category: Things People Say About Gays, videos

With Proposition 8 in the news, people have come out from under their rocks in droves.  With that, comes numerous, sometime unintelligible comments on various websites about gay people.  Such stereotypes and stupidity have only been fueled by the church.  Therefore, I have started a new multi-part series regarding the stupid things people say (or type) about gays.

We’ll start with a quote found on YouTube which was responsive to a Pro-Prop * LDS video:

I respect that gay people are the way they are, but why would they want to get married if they can’t reproduce? If they adopt or do other things to get a child, they could corrupt the child as well. Why would they want to inflict harm upon a child that did not do anything to deserve it?  Violist (13 years old - isn’t that cute?)

I think you’ve missed the point here.  It’s not about the civil issues of marriage, but about the benefits of German engineering.  Since the result of marriage is obviously reproduction by your standards, by allowing gay people to get married, we could then get pregnant and rightfully purchase a Volkswagen without being judged by heterosexuals for being unpregnant Volkswagen purchasers.  This inalienable right is not just for straight, pregnant women any more is it Ms. Brooke Shields?  Such extreme homophobia is evidenced in the following video:

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Gun Sales High After Obama Election - But Why?

November 09, 2008 By: jaysays Category: news, politics

Analysts will argue that the recent spikes in gun sales after an Obama victory are due to gun fanatics fearing that Obama and a Democratic majority Congress will restrict gun laws further.  See: Obama election prompts surge in US gun sales | World news | guardian.co.uk.  However, could that be the real reason, or is there a deeper one?

For years white folk have feared the black man, moving from neighborhood after neighborhood as black neighbors move-in, which lead to the coining of the terms “White Flight.”  Now, as a black/white man prepares to take the highest seat in American government, whites can’t just up and move, so what must they do?  Arm themselves.

Or perhaps, the plot is even more sinister.  A coup perhaps, or perhaps all the media hype about assassination attempts are starting to get to people’s heads… really, who needs an AR-15 assault rifle?

Of course, Obama clearly stated in his pre-election debates and speeches that he will not support any legislation which takes away the right of American’s to bear arms.  But then again, we’ve been told many things by presidents and presidential candidates.  Take the following for example:

George Bush (the First) stated he would not raise taxes.  Then the economy happened and he regrettably was forced into raising taxes.  Or Clinton’s little lie about not having sexual relations with “that woman,” when he did.  Or the bigger lie of George W. Bush, when he stated that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction.  But perhaps the most disappointing lie of all was from former President Ronald Reagan who told American voters that he would never forget us.

So perhaps Obama was just saying that, perhaps he will take away the right to bear arms - the near future will tell.

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