Comments on: Springfield, MO and Anti-Gay Flirting Laws – Why the Kiss In Really Matters http://jaysays.com/2009/08/springfield-mo-and-anti-gay-flirting-laws-why-the-kiss-in-really-matters-kissin/ because simon isn't cool anymore. Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:58:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Aaron http://jaysays.com/2009/08/springfield-mo-and-anti-gay-flirting-laws-why-the-kiss-in-really-matters-kissin/comment-page-1/#comment-3502 Aaron Wed, 04 Nov 2009 06:52:10 +0000 http://jaysays.com/?p=2228#comment-3502 Hey guys this law had been taken off the books! BTW I live in Springfield and I am a gay man. I have never heard about this nor any of my other fellow gays who live here until it was brought up by the current city manager who has taken it of the books! There are more gay people here than one might think. There are 50,000 college students here, but even then there are a lot of older gay couples as well. I have never been discriminated against and hate that all these websites say Springfield is the worst place for a gay. While us gays who are here are having a great time, you guys really dampen our fun! BTW Springfield just hosted the Miss Gay Mid America pageant! Not only that but on many different occasions people have protest downtown on the square for gay rights. It's not that bad here, sure it's not the Bay area or DC, but I love it! Hey guys this law had been taken off the books! BTW I live in Springfield and I am a gay man. I have never heard about this nor any of my other fellow gays who live here until it was brought up by the current city manager who has taken it of the books! There are more gay people here than one might think. There are 50,000 college students here, but even then there are a lot of older gay couples as well. I have never been discriminated against and hate that all these websites say Springfield is the worst place for a gay. While us gays who are here are having a great time, you guys really dampen our fun! BTW Springfield just hosted the Miss Gay Mid America pageant! Not only that but on many different occasions people have protest downtown on the square for gay rights. It's not that bad here, sure it's not the Bay area or DC, but I love it!

]]> By: DLL http://jaysays.com/2009/08/springfield-mo-and-anti-gay-flirting-laws-why-the-kiss-in-really-matters-kissin/comment-page-1/#comment-3344 DLL Sun, 30 Aug 2009 23:09:26 +0000 http://jaysays.com/?p=2228#comment-3344 Used to live in Springfield. They have a Pride festival. And I've never heard anyone mention this law before. It should be noted that Springfield has a HUGE antigay population. The Assemblies Of God denomiational headquarters and university/seminary are there. Also, there are a few other religious universities in the area. That being said, I never felt descriminated as a gay man. Used to live in Springfield. They have a Pride festival. And I've never heard anyone mention this law before. It should be noted that Springfield has a HUGE antigay population. The Assemblies Of God denomiational headquarters and university/seminary are there. Also, there are a few other religious universities in the area. That being said, I never felt descriminated as a gay man.

]]> By: No Kiss-In For Missouri's No-Gay Zone! | Speak Equal http://jaysays.com/2009/08/springfield-mo-and-anti-gay-flirting-laws-why-the-kiss-in-really-matters-kissin/comment-page-1/#comment-3304 No Kiss-In For Missouri's No-Gay Zone! | Speak Equal Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:19:11 +0000 http://jaysays.com/?p=2228#comment-3304 [...] Follow this story and others at jaysays.com. [...] [...] Follow this story and others at jaysays.com. [...]

]]> By: mjpngwnz http://jaysays.com/2009/08/springfield-mo-and-anti-gay-flirting-laws-why-the-kiss-in-really-matters-kissin/comment-page-1/#comment-3303 mjpngwnz Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:56:09 +0000 http://jaysays.com/?p=2228#comment-3303 Maybe there should be a different sort of event in Springfield - than the actual Kiss-In itself. Maybe a few people should just sit openly with signs supporting lgbt rights. They could also wear rainbow colored shirts (if they have them). Each sign mentioning the location of an event in a different city or state - would that be violating the law? Maybe there should be a different sort of event in Springfield – than the actual Kiss-In itself. Maybe a few people should just sit openly with signs supporting lgbt rights. They could also wear rainbow colored shirts (if they have them). Each sign mentioning the location of an event in a different city or state – would that be violating the law?

]]> By: jaysays http://jaysays.com/2009/08/springfield-mo-and-anti-gay-flirting-laws-why-the-kiss-in-really-matters-kissin/comment-page-1/#comment-3297 jaysays Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:47:05 +0000 http://jaysays.com/?p=2228#comment-3297 Timothy. I feel that I must clarify that the organizer did not apply for a permit nor was she denied the permit from the city. She has, however, indicated that upon being informed of the law, she is afraid to organize an event least she be prosecuted. The city has contacted me and indicated that they feel the law is unconstitutional and unenforceable; however, the fear it instills in the hearts of our community is enforcement enough. That is the point of this article. Thanks for the comment! Timothy. I feel that I must clarify that the organizer did not apply for a permit nor was she denied the permit from the city. She has, however, indicated that upon being informed of the law, she is afraid to organize an event least she be prosecuted.

The city has contacted me and indicated that they feel the law is unconstitutional and unenforceable; however, the fear it instills in the hearts of our community is enforcement enough. That is the point of this article. Thanks for the comment!

]]> By: Timothy Kincaid http://jaysays.com/2009/08/springfield-mo-and-anti-gay-flirting-laws-why-the-kiss-in-really-matters-kissin/comment-page-1/#comment-3296 Timothy Kincaid Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:01:49 +0000 http://jaysays.com/?p=2228#comment-3296 The Supreme Court was clear in Lawrence v. Texas. This is an unconstitutional law. Further, if an official of Springfield denied a permit based on this law, this would be a civil rights violation. The Supreme Court was clear in Lawrence v. Texas. This is an unconstitutional law. Further, if an official of Springfield denied a permit based on this law, this would be a civil rights violation.

]]> By: Jude http://jaysays.com/2009/08/springfield-mo-and-anti-gay-flirting-laws-why-the-kiss-in-really-matters-kissin/comment-page-1/#comment-3295 Jude Tue, 11 Aug 2009 23:30:06 +0000 http://jaysays.com/?p=2228#comment-3295 So... besides the fact that this is insane and a clear cut case of discrimination, what psychic powers are needed to know if someone is inviting, enticing, or persuading? Words? Actions? Charades? Drawing a picture? This seems like a really good time for people to make this law visible and tell (not ask) the people of Springfield Missouri to take this law off the books. I'm all for answering the call to bombard their mayor with emails. So… besides the fact that this is insane and a clear cut case of discrimination, what psychic powers are needed to know if someone is inviting, enticing, or persuading? Words? Actions? Charades? Drawing a picture?

This seems like a really good time for people to make this law visible and tell (not ask) the people of Springfield Missouri to take this law off the books. I'm all for answering the call to bombard their mayor with emails.

]]> By: jaysays http://jaysays.com/2009/08/springfield-mo-and-anti-gay-flirting-laws-why-the-kiss-in-really-matters-kissin/comment-page-1/#comment-3293 jaysays Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:20:55 +0000 http://jaysays.com/?p=2228#comment-3293 It does, and the more we flee from the oppression, the more oppressed we become. Those of us that remain in the "Hatin states" would love a massive influx of liberal minds. It does, and the more we flee from the oppression, the more oppressed we become. Those of us that remain in the "Hatin states" would love a massive influx of liberal minds.

]]> By: jaysays http://jaysays.com/2009/08/springfield-mo-and-anti-gay-flirting-laws-why-the-kiss-in-really-matters-kissin/comment-page-1/#comment-3292 jaysays Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:19:52 +0000 http://jaysays.com/?p=2228#comment-3292 Unfortunately, Arkansas Jaguar is right. Sodomy laws were overturned, not actions leading up to sodomy. However, this law directly targets homosexuals ONLY. Even if argued that it applies to straight people, it wouldn't hold up - the code is titled "Solicitation by Homosexuals." While titles generally aren't controlling in law, it is clear the laws intended use. Unfortunately, Arkansas Jaguar is right. Sodomy laws were overturned, not actions leading up to sodomy. However, this law directly targets homosexuals ONLY. Even if argued that it applies to straight people, it wouldn't hold up – the code is titled "Solicitation by Homosexuals." While titles generally aren't controlling in law, it is clear the laws intended use.

]]> By: jaysays http://jaysays.com/2009/08/springfield-mo-and-anti-gay-flirting-laws-why-the-kiss-in-really-matters-kissin/comment-page-1/#comment-3291 jaysays Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:18:00 +0000 http://jaysays.com/?p=2228#comment-3291 To be clear, the law is a city ordinance titled and is indeed titled Solicitation by homosexuals. The state law references prescribe the punishments for committing the crime (First Degree or Third Degree penalty). Thank you for the expansion of the quote. To be clear, the law is a city ordinance titled and is indeed titled Solicitation by homosexuals. The state law references prescribe the punishments for committing the crime (First Degree or Third Degree penalty). Thank you for the expansion of the quote.

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