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National Organization for Marriage Launches NOH8 Campaign???

January 02, 2011 By: geekgirl Category: Featured, LGBT Lessons for Straight People, Youth Issues

The National Organization for Marriage, (NOM), learned a new strategy in 2010: steal the phrases used by the movement pushing to legalize marriage for same sex couples. It started with “Hate is Not A Family Value.” More recently, they have been offended by the FCKH8 videos, whose purpose is to counter the rhetoric  put forward by groups like NOM.

If you’ve seen them, you’ll notice that, yes, the F word is used and in one particular video,  it is used by children.

NOM has decided to use this as their next marketing campaign. Their slogan? NOH8. Perhaps, in their infinite ignorance, they have never heard of the NOH8 campaign started by Adam Bouska, where people have NOH8 printed on their cheeks, wear duct tape, and are photographed.  I can’t wait for the copyright infringement battle to begin. Better, I can’t wait for NOM to wear duct tape over their mouths. Permanently.

Setting aside their continued lack of originality and twisting of every word, methinks NOM doth protest too much. If you read their blog you would think that the children in these videos are taught to use the F word in every sentence, their parents are awful, and a lawyer should be called to check into child abuse.

NOM has conveniently ignored the true message in this video. That would mean acknowledging the logic, courage, and compassion in the message of equality for all families. Yesterday I checked YouTube. The video has almost 2 million hits and the “Likes” outweigh the “Dislikes” 10 to 1.

NOM as an organization is doing everything in its power, and bank account, to appeal to fear and hate. When asked to back up their position that marriage is between one man and woman, all they have now is “it is special.” When interviewed publicly, they have been forced to retreat from religious arguments that God made it so, marriage is for procreation, or it has been this way for 5,000 years since none of those requirements are present in the law now for heterosexuals.

They have attempted to claim that they do not hate gay people, that this is only about the special institution of marriage. Yet in their blog and their Facebook group, Protect Marriage: One Man, One Woman, they continue to promote a misinterpreted Biblical view that homosexuals choose their sexual orientation, they are sexual deviants, pedophiles, and are out to convert all of our children to homosexuality.

When has NOM stood up to protect any LGBT person? When the rash of suicides hit the mainstream media in September, they refused to support actions to stop bullying. If NOM were truly worried about what children are exposed to, they would pay attention to the statistics on bullying of youth and start a campaign to stop bullying and abusive behavior. Do they know that four out of five youth who are called homophobic slurs are actually straight?

Here are statistics on bullying for 2009 from GLSEN, The Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network. As a mother, I am far more concerned about the real harm that is being done to our children every single day in our schools and communities. It is far more traumatic than the use of the F word in a video. A video that comes with a warning label, by the way.

  • 84.6% of LGBT students reported being verbally harassed, 40.1% reported being physically harassed and 18.8% reported being physically assaulted at school in the past year because of their sexual orientation.
  • 63.7% of LGBT students reported being verbally harassed, 27.2% reported being physically harassed and 12.5% reported being physically assaulted at school in the past year because of their gender expression.
  • 72.4% heard homophobic remarks, such as “faggot” or “dyke,” frequently or often at school.
  • Nearly two-thirds (61.1%) of students reported that they felt unsafe in school because of their sexual orientation, and more than a third (39.9%) felt unsafe because of their gender expression.
  • 29.1% of LGBT students missed a class at least once and 30.0% missed at least one day of school in the past month because of safety concerns, compared to only 8.0% and 6.7%, respectively, of a national sample of secondary school students.
  • The reported grade point average of students who were more frequently harassed because of their sexual orientation or gender expression was almost half a grade lower than for students who were less often harassed (2.7 vs. 3.1).
  • Increased levels of victimization were related to increased levels of depression and anxiety and decreased levels of self-esteem.

I read Brian Brown’s Christmas letter on the NOM blog. He even included a photograph of his family with all of his children. One gay person who commented on the blog, trying to be calm and engage in productive discourse, stated that he disagreed with NOM but wished Brian’s family a Merry Christmas and commented that his children are beautiful. They are.

And so are the children of so many same sex couples that I know. I wonder what Brian would tell one of his children about the value of marriage and family, how special and important it is if that child turns out to be gay. Will he want his  child to have the same rights and happiness as his other children? Perhaps Brian would understand if he had to explain his prejudice to one of his own children. Or will he turn on his child, the same way that NOM has tried to dehumanize and marginalize all people attracted to someone of the same gender?

Note: Tune in for the debate between Evan Wolfson, Freedom to Marry and Maggie Gallagher, NOM; brought to you by The Economist. Starts January 3rd online.

LGBT Lessons for Straight People: Ridicule and Oppression is not Tolerance.

July 29, 2010 By: geekgirl Category: Headline, LGBT Lessons for Straight People

LGBT Lessons for Straight People - Why Equality MattersThe National Organization for Marriage, with its key speakers Brian Brown, Maggie Gallagher and Louis J. Marinelli III, are touring the country.

Their rhetoric has changed and I am the first to admit that there must be a genius, albeit it one without morals, on their team. They tried, and succeeded, in taking away marriage from California and Maine by telling lies. Do we all remember the Gathering Storm video? Letting gays marry will mean that:

  • homosexuality will be taught in schools (wrong),
  • will force churches to marry them (wrong),
  • gays will make bad parents (wrong), and
  • since gays are pedophiles, we will condone that sort of thing (very wrong).

The arguments went on:

  • Gays cannot procreate. [Well, procreation is not a requirement for marriage.]
  • Homosexuality is a choice and is deviant behavior (wrong).
  • If we make gay marriage legal, where will it end? We’ll legalize pedophilia and bestiality.

What they are really saying is that they believe gay people are sick.

Pedophilia is abhorrent and is mostly committed by people that identify as heterosexuals. Just ask the Catholic Church, they are experts in this area.

What they fail to recognize is that being gay is not a mental illness, it is not a choice. Couples who want to marry are simply trying to make a commitment so strong that they are willing to commit to each other legally and financially. Marriage is what stabilizes families; all families.

Their Biblical arguments are a failure. Again and again, they ignore the points about other sins in the Bible. They cannot seem to remember that adultery made it to the Ten Commandments, not being gay. They cherry pick from Bible verses. Proven wrong at the Prop 8 trial, they have now resorted to two strategies.

The first is that there is something special about the union between a man and a woman. We can all see this right? Special. I don’t remember the word special anywhere in our Declaration of Independence or Constitution. I have not seen our country evolve to take away rights. We have always read more deeply into our founding documents to expand rights. Should we have stayed in 1776 when white male property owners were the only ones who could vote and slavery was legal? We have come a long way in over 200 years. But we are not done.

Their second strategy is playing the victim card. NOM is now the face of tolerance. They want civil dialogue. Those who disagree should be civil. Yes, if someone wanted to take away my rights, I’m sure I would just sit by politely and calmly and let them. [Sarcasm].

Everyone’s love is special. Tolerance? That is what they call denying rights now? Tolerance?

Do you want to know what NOM supporters really believe? Visit their Facebook page Protect Marriage: One Man, One Woman. Here are some lovely screen shots of the discussions that occur there:

Judge for yourself, is this tolerance?

Protect Marriage: One Man One Woman

Protect Marriage: One Man One Woman

Protect Marriage: One Man One WomanNational Organization for the denial of Marriage to Loving Couples (a/k/a NOM)

National Organization for the denial of Marriage to Loving Couples (a/k/a NOM)
And if you still see “tolerance,” take a look at this video of Larry Adams, a NOM supporter and Rally attendee from Equality on Trial:

jaysays.com contributor geekgirlgeekgirl: Jude, the author of this post, is a straight woman, a mom and has been married for 32 years to the same wonderful man. She believes in Buddhism and attends the United Church of Christ. She is a molecular biologist, her best friend is a lesbian, and she believes that every human deserves equal rights, respect and a life free from hate, fear and discrimination. The only thing she hates is pickles. Her science blog can be found at LGBT Latest Science. More of LGBT Lessons for Straight People can be found here.

NOM Bus Driver Signs Up for Marriage Equality Counter-Protest

July 21, 2010 By: Guest Blogger Category: Camp Gay, Featured

So, does everyone know who Louis Marinelli is by now?  He’s the National Organization for Marriage’s bus driver/head propagandist during their little 19-state “One Man, One Woman” anti-marriage tour.  It’s been going swimmingly for the NOMbies thus far, if his blog is to be believed; which it isn’t.

Nope, the real story with him today is something much more sordid, bizarre, and amusing.  Check out this screenshot taken from the event page  for the “Protect” Marriage Counter-Protest in Columbus Ohio:
NOM Marriage Tour - A Change of Heart?

Yep, that’s everyone’s favorite blogging bigot bus boy, signed up to join the good guys for a round of sign-waving, chanting, and what-have-you, all in the interests of repudiating his employers’ message of intolerance and hatred.  Far be it for me to offer any conjecture as to his motivations for this, but you must admit that it is a mighty interesting turn of events.  With friends like that, who needs enemies?  Am I right, NOM?

Michael Vernon Hunt is a glam rocking demi-hermit who thoroughly enjoys rocking any and all boats, even though he can’t swim.  He is a co-organizer of the Columbus anti-NOM gathering and an avid follower of all things activist-y.  In his spare time, he enjoys indulging in such geekery as organizing his digital music collection and overdosing on horror flicks.

A note from Jay: When I stumbled upon this, I got more laughs than one should.  I couldn’t resist sharing it and with Michael’s persmission, I present it here.  Thanks for the laughs, Michael (or should we be thanking NOM for the easy fodder?).

A Little Perspective for the National Organization for Marriage

July 19, 2010 By: jaysays Category: Featured, Thought of the Gay

In a recent video put out by the National Organization for Marriage (NOM), an organization devoted to preventing equal protections for certain citizens of the United States, a woman with tears in her eyes tells the story of how she was bullied and intimidated by LGBT rights activists during the hate fest.  What was the crime?  The protesters blocked her view with their signs!  Here’s the video:

This isn’t the first time NOM has played the victim card. Throughout their campaign to prevent same-sex couples from having hospital visitation rights, paying equal taxes, enjoying the same retirement benefits and generally pursuing their own happiness, NOM representatives have attempted to paint the LGBT community as oppressive radicals who are out to destroy America. Now it’s time for a little perspective:

These are the faces of our dead.  These are the faces that anti-lesbian, gay, bisexual and/or transgender sentiment said it was ok to harass, beat and even kill.  On average, over four LGBT people are victimized by a hate crime each day.  Hetersoexuals are victims of sexual orienation bias crimes at a significantly reduced 0.01 per day.  In fact, there has not been a single reported case of an LGBT person murdering a hetersexual person simply because they are heterosexual.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again here, it’s time for NOM to come down off their cross – someone else might want to use it.

LGBT Lessons for Straight People: National Organization for Marriage

July 14, 2010 By: geekgirl Category: Featured, LGBT Lessons for Straight People

LGBT Lessons for Straight People - Why Equality MattersIf you haven’t heard of Maggie Gallagher, you aren’t gay. Maggie Gallagher was the face of the National Organization for Marriage, a group that has poured millions of dollars into a battle to prevent the legalization of same-sex marriage. Now, NOM is on tour this summer, the Summer for Marriage Tour. Today, July 14th,  is their first stop in Augusta, Maine. From sea to shining, um, cornfields. Yes. They won’t cross the Mississippi River.

Maggie’s argument is that same sex marriage will destroy the traditional marriage. Of course, there is no evidence for this. The Prop 8 trial proved that.  Maggie and Brian Brown are simply damaged people with a twisted way of trying to solve their own dysfunctional issues.

Maggie was a single mom. Now, I have a lot of sympathy for single parents. Parenting is hard work. I cannot imagine how difficult it would have been for me if I had not had my husband.

Ironically, Maggie is the President of the Institute for Marriage and Public Policy. I have absolutely no idea if this organization is legitimate or has anyone with any intelligence working there.

But let’s pretend for the sake of this post that they do. I’ll tell you why. On their website, you can find a report called “The Taxpayer Costs of Divorce and Unwed Childbearing: First-Ever Estimates for the Nation and All Fifty States.” I have not read every word. But I’ve scanned it and cannot find one word about same-sex marriage.

Instead, this is what I found. Something that LGBT activists have been pointing out. Only this time, with numbers.

Let’s look at the highlights of this report.

These important changes in family structure stem from two fundamental changes in
U.S. residents’ behavior regarding marriage: increases in unmarried childbearing
and high rates of divorce.1 More than a third of all U.S. children are now born outside
of wedlock, including 25 percent of non-Hispanic white babies, 46 percent of
Hispanic babies, and 69 percent of African American babies.2 In 2004, almost 1.5
million babies were born to unmarried mothers.

Evidently it is important to point out the racial breakdown of these statistics.

78.5% of children living in single parent families live with their mother.

The Institute mined available public data for government costs associated with different types of households.

Here are a few examples:

Families receiving       Food Stamps                           Assistance                   Medicaid

Married                                        3.9%                            3.6%                            15.4%

Single Male Parent                   8.6%                            7.8%                            27.9%

Single Female Parent              26.%                            17.2%                          45.6%

It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that, in general, women earn less than men, and that often times both parents work in a two parent home. So is this really a surprise to anyone? Not to me.

The Institute went further and looked into other forms of government aid. These numbers are for single parent female households only. I do not know how they calculated the impact on the justice system, other than to state that kids in single parent homes are more likely to get into trouble. The actual number isn’t my point though. So, let’s just assume again that these numbers are real.

These numbers are in billions

Justice System                                                                                              $19.3

TANF – Cash Assistance                                                                            $5.1

Food Stamps                                                                                                  $9.6

Housing Assistance                                                                                     $7.3

Medicaid                                                                                                          $27.9

SCHIP                                                                                                                $2.8

ChildWelfare                                                                                                   $9.2

WIC                                                                                                                     $1.6

LIHEAP                                                                                                             $0.7

Head Start                                                                                                        $2.7

School Lunch and Breakfast Program                                                   $3.5

Additional U.S. Income Taxes Paid                                                        $6.1

Additional FICA Taxes Paid                                                                       $9.4

Additional State & Local Taxes Paid                                                       $6.8

Total U.S. Taxpayer Cost of Family Fragmentation        $112.0

That’s a nice tidy sum of $112 billion. You’ll notice that they call this family fragmentation. Here’s what I call it:

  • An opportunity to educate people about birth control. In school. When they are teenagers. Not abstinence.
  • Make the morning after pill available. Make condoms available.
  • Provide more opportunities for education for women and minorities.
  • Provide more job opportunities for single parents. Encourage employers to provide part-time jobs and child care subsidies.
  • Last, but not least, as a society we need to support couples when they are going through rough times. We all benefit from extended families, even when we argue about breast feeding versus bottles, spanking or not, church or not. Families have bonds, despite their differences.

Here’s what else I have to say.

What is the rate of unwanted children among gays and lesbians? I’m guessing fairly low if your sex partner is of the same gender. Kudos, you aren’t contributing to this government expenditure.

Maggie and her friends need to focus on heterosexuals. We are a huge problem. We cost the government billions of dollars. We behave irresponsibly and we expect our government to bail us out. Right Maggie?  We endanger our children when we cannot provide for their physical and emotional needs. We tear our children apart with our 50% divorce rate. We tear our spouses apart with our adultery or domestic violence.

Now let’s think about this. How will keeping couples of the same gender from marrying solve any of these problems? How does banning same sex marriage reduce this huge government expenditure?

NOM? What is your answer?

jaysays.com contributor geekgirlgeekgirl: Jude, the author of this post, is a straight woman, a mom and has been married for 32 years to the same wonderful man. She believes in Buddhism and attends the United Church of Christ. She is a molecular biologist, her best friend is a lesbian, and she believes that every human deserves equal rights, respect and a life free from hate, fear and discrimination. The only thing she hates is pickles. Her science blog can be found at LGBT Latest Science. More of LGBT Lessons for Straight People can be found here.

Fear, Freedom and Shaving your Head

January 06, 2010 By: jaysays Category: Commentary, Featured, Thought of the Gay

Recently, I stumbled upon an article online which captured my attention.  It was a first person account of a heterosexual woman who decided to shave her head.  While the account was from the mid-1990’s, it expressed something that rings true even today:

For the first few weeks after I shaved my head, I walked around very nervously, convinced that people were going to jump out of alleys and beat me up for being a lesbian.

Because I am straight and have a lot of straight friends who I am certain are totally disinterested in hurting my large number of gay friends, I knew that not all straight people hate all gay people. That didn’t matter. I was still nervous.

In some ways, the post reminded me of the conversation I had with Jane Wishon, a straight alley working hard in California to overturn Proposition 8.  But I also noted that the author, Kaitlin (aka Ducky), expressed fear that being perceived to be a lesbian would result in physical harm to her.

This got me to thinking about how successful those in the heterosexual community that devote their lives to tormenting LGBT people have been at promoting terror.  (This isn’t the first time I’ve implied – or even outright stated – that organizations such as the National Organization for [Heterosexual Only] Marriage and the American [Heterosexual Only] Family Association are terrorist groups; however, Kaitlin’s story reinforces my opinion.)

These organizations may think they are simply keeping marriage contracts from being entered into by same-sex couples, but through their lies to defend marriage from a same-sex takeover, they are propagating the idea that it’s ok to harm LGBT people.  The result is fear within our community, like that felt by Kaitlin.

Kaitlin was lucky as she didn’t experience any violence against her person.  Unfortunately, not all LGBT people (or those perceived to be LGBT) are as lucky as Kaitlin.  According to the 2008 FBI Hate crimes Statistics, there were 1673 victims of a bias based crime due to their status as LGBT – over four victims per day.  [For clarification, the term victim can include businesses/organizations as well as persons.  The calculations also exclude the 33 incidents of purported bias crimes based on heterosexual status (roughly 1 per every 10 days)].

But fear only has the power that we give it – and boy do we ever give it power.  As examples, Christopher and I rarely, if ever, hold hands in public; many of my friends speak in gender neutral terms about their spouses or boyfriends/girlfriends when among strangers; a heterosexual ally was convinced to remove the equality stickers by a fellow queer because he was afraid she would get hurt or her car would be broken into as she lives and works in a very small, rural, conservative town.

Until we can truly conquer that fear, we will not obtain equality or freedom – we will remain, marriage equality or not, victims of the majority tyranny.  I for one am tired of being a victim.  How about you?

If Maggie Gallagher is Upset, Then So Am I!

September 10, 2009 By: geekgirl Category: Commentary, Featured, Thought of the Gay

nomMaggie Gallagher of NOM, the National Organization for [Heterosexual Only] Marriage recently said:

This is not an issue of free speech but of neighborliness. Fundamental decency requires that we treat each other with respect, especially when we disagree deeply on hot moral issues. Sadly, I’ve grown used to the reality that tolerance is now a one-way street for gay marriage advocates. It no longer matters how respectfully and civilly one makes the case for humanity’s marriage tradition.

You see, Maggie is upset that people think she is a bigot. She is upset that people tell her that what she is doing is gay hate. Maggie just wants to be your neighbor. Because she has been respectfully and civilly making the case for humanity’s marriage tradition.

And if Maggie is upset, then I am upset. Because I actually agree that fundamental decency requires that we treat each other with respect. I feel hurt. I am so upset that I cried, got out of bed and I am writing this at midnight.  So if you are reading this blog, I would appreciate it if you would send this blog everywhere you can. Tomorrow I will print it and send it to Maggie.

Dear Maggie,

Allow me to help you understand.  You are hurting real people. Real people that love each other. Do you know how many gay couples I know? Let me count: Five couples that are close friends. That visit us and we visit them. People I speak to and work with every single day. About another 20 couples at church. Another 20 or so from work or other social groups.

You have hurt them to the point where I have seen them cry. You have made ME cry! You have made me angry and my friends angry. How dare you hurt people you don’t even know? Then you cry victim? Poor Maggie! I’m so sorry Maggie. If I had known you were so sensitive, I would have…….. wait, I would have done nothing differently. No one is trying to take away your marriage or any of your rights. So just exactly what are you upset about?  But maybe someone should take away your marriage. Then you might see how it feels.

My friends are real people, with real names, lives and families.  They love each other, pay taxes, mow the lawn, go to church (or not), give to charities, and obey the law. You are denying them legal rights that any two people who are committed to caring for one another deserve. Marriage is a legal contract that entitles people to 1138 rights under Federal Law. You want to stop people from having the right to protect each other financially and legally, and you wonder why people call you a bigot? Do you really have to wonder? Traditional marriage? Marriage is defined in the social context of the times. It has been many things, some of them quite ugly. When two people love each other so much that they are willing to be financially responsible for each other, that deserves legal and social recognition.

Tolerance is a one way street?  I must read over 50 gay news sites and blogs. Have I just gotten lucky that most of them are people who are trying to explain that they are human and deserve, what was that word Maggie, “Respect?” Is it respect when Pastor Steven Anderson says that gays should be murdered? Is it respect when readers will write comments like “homosexuals are the turds that you can’t get to flush down the toilet?”  Is it respect when gay teens have a suicide rate four times higher than their peers? When they are bullied and taunted every day? Is it respect when your parents throw you out, or worse, beat you? Is it respect when your employer fires you because of your sexual orientation or gender identity? Is it respect when a couple is arrested for a peck on the cheek? Is it respect when you are a gay soldier and fellow soldiers abuse you, knowing that you can’t tell?

Wouldn’t fundamental decency mean giving everyone equal rights? Maggie, you are either naive or a master at whimpering foul. When you have made it your life’s work to deny people rights, they are not going to like you. It’s really that simple. Wake up and get the message. Because I guarantee you, the gay people who do grow up to be healthy and confident got there the hard way. They have been through the hell of fear and discrimination. They have thick skins and they are not afraid to fight for their rights. And in case you didn’t notice, 75% of the newest generation is with them.

Maggie, go home and take care of your own life. And let other people have their own life. That’s neighborliness.
jaysays.com contributor geekgirlgeekgirl: Jude is a straight woman, a mom and has been married for 32 years to the same wonderful man. She believes in Buddhism and attends the United Church of Christ. She is a molecular biologist, her best friend is a lesbian, and she believes that every human deserves equal rights, respect and a life free from hate, fear and discrimination. The only thing she hates is pickles. Her science blog can be found at LGBT Latest Science.

Ms. California Joins Anti-Marriage Folks – But She Doesn’t Have Michael Phelps! A rant.

April 30, 2009 By: jaysays Category: Featured, LGBT News, Marriage Equality

Ms. CaliforniaCarrie Prejean, who will forever be first runner up to Anita Bryant for the title of Ms. Gay Hater, has joined with NOM [National Organization for (straights only) Marriage].  In a statement, she advised “I was ready to be Miss USA that night on that stage, and I was faced with a very controversial question.  I had a choice to stand up for what I believe in or to compromise that for the tiara.”

But before I go into the nuances of Ms. Prejean’s new found smear Ad Campaign and the type of support she has received from the radically reducing right, I must report perhaps the biggest bit of news regarding Ms. Prejean: She is not dating Michael Phelps as purported by her grandmother.

Now, onto the support being shown for Ms. Prejean.  A quick look at the comments posted at FOXNews.com reveals the conservative opinions that we hear so often:

I admire Carrie Prejean for her support of tradional marriage. I applaud her objection to the marriage between two men. Two men getting married is in contrary to our Christian faith. Besides I believe it creates a big social problem due to the STD, and which this liberal government has funded out of our hard earned tax money.

Wow, gay marriage will promote STD’s?  I always thought encouraging monogamous relationships through civil contractual agreements was a great way to prevent the spread of sexually transmitted diseases, but perhaps science is again wrong and religion is correct.

It does get worse; even though it seems the ill-informed and uneducated couldn’t go any farther into the dark recesses of the Forest of Lies and Distortions, another commenter suggests [using the common “gay phrase” of “You Go!”]:

You Go! People in America need to take a stand against this plague in our country. Back in the closet is where they belong. Swine Flu; Economy tanking; Homosexuals adopting babies; Etc. Etc. Keep on promoting immoral values America, we haven’t seen anyting [sic] yet!!

There are other groups that have referred to people as plagues on society based upon religion, race, color, immigration status, sexual orientation, etc.  They’ve included numerous hate groups such as the KKK and the Neo-Nazis.  It is regrettable that we see this movement of the “GOP” toward such intolerent behavior in the guise of religion – wait, wasn’t that what “The Christian Identity Movement” in eras past was all about too?

But wait, there’s more:

Good for her. It’s called freedom of speech, something gays don’t approve of I guess.

And finally, from the bed of lies they lay upon, the *cough* truth reveals itself in the most suspicious way:

I find it funny how liberals go berserk whenever conservatives speak out against something pro-liberal and call it freedom of speech/expression when they are bashing conservatives. Like it or not liberals, every American citizen (yes, this does include conservatives) has the same entitlement to free speech as you. Just because someone doesn’t agree with you doesn’t make them wrong; it’s called values. If we all agreed on everything, the world would really blow. To quote Ann Coulter with regards to liberal diatribe, ‘If you must speak to a liberal, first tell them to move out of their parent’s house, get a job, and start paying taxes.’

As a “gay,” liberal, blogger, speaker, lecturer, activist, etc., freedom of speech has been something for which I have been a staunch advocate.  In fact, I have often stated that everyone has the right to free speech, but no one is required to listen.  I have even stood up for the rights of people I disagree with because I believe that all people should have the same, equal protections of the law without exception – so to accuse “gays” of not approving of equal rights is erroneous.

If any groups have ever benefited from the freedomof speech, it is those groups that traditionalists oppress.

Perhaps even more offensive and incorrect is the idea that liberals don’t think conservatives have the same “entitlement” to free speech.  I must assume that the commenter would also argue that such entitlements apply to all rights provided by the government – including the right to “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”  If so, then marriage equality would be necessitated based upon the commenters own argument as marriage is legally identified, in the famous case of Loving v. Virginia which was also argued against using religious bias and lies, as a right to “the pursuit of happiness.”

While I, a liberal, fully support Ms. Prejean’s ability to say what is on her mind, to express her opinion and to do so in a public forum, I disagree with her and the aforementioned commenter that a “value” of this county is to oppress people.  If you consider domination by way of oppression a “value;” you seriously need to rethink your own morals.