I find it remarkable that people actually exist who make comments such as this:

The movement to normalize shitfuck unions is predominantly a white phenomenon — therefore with the inevitable loss of white power in America, assbugger/bulldyke “marriage” will become more absurd.   awamoriwhiskey

Perhaps what is unknown to the writer of the above comment (in spite of being 45 years old) is that the white power movement (for which the “Christian Identity Movement” was a large part) is also anti-homosexual. The “white phenomenon” is a stretch of the authors imagination in his effort to establish a white conspiracy to ensure other minorities do not join in the quest for equal CIVIL rights for homosexuals.  It is another fear inspiring tactic of the bigots to elude that they are the “righteous”.

Further, the movement to prohobit anti-marriage persons from allowing same-sex marriage recognition is not an effort to “normalize” the unions at all.  Normalizing the unions implies several things, the primary being that homosexuals are attempting to make gay marriage the standard.  In spite of religious rheteuric, gay people are not actively recruiting.  Christians of all creeds (particularly Mormons and Jehovah’s witnesses) have cornered the recruitment market and appear often on my doorstep attempting to recruit me.  I have never, nor do I currently have plans to ever, knock on sopeone’s door and ask them to be a homosexual. The sell would be too hard because homosexuality doesn’t have many great selling points at this moment in time.   After knocking on the door to recruit, we would only be able to provide comments such as: people will hate you, you will be treated poorly, you may get beaten or murdered, you’ll never get government benefits even though you are paying for them, etc.

This episode is dedicated to conservative hate monger Paul Weyrich, President and CEO of “Free Congress Foundation”, who died this morning at age 66.  Mr. Weyrich was held by some as a “patriot” and “conservative institution.”  However, those that were the target of his hate will forever remember him as a bigot and hate monger.  His death will hopefully be the beginning of the end of an era of hate, misinformation and inhumanity against homosexuals.  One of the many stupid things Mr. Weyrich said about gays was:

Homosexuals tend to be preoccupied with sex.

Mr. Weyrich could not have been more off the mark.  I am of the opinion that Mr. Weyrich was obviously more preoccupied with homosexual sex than homosexuals - which is the case with many hate groups who often protest with signs showing stick figures having anal intercourse.  Such preoccupation with sex on the part of conservative hate groups presents the illusion that it is the homosexual who is preoccupied with sex as we are often having to defend ourselves from such attacks on our sexual practices, unlike our heterosexual counterparts.

In fact, just this morning when I rolled out of bed, headed to the shower and ultimately got ready for work, sex didn’t cross my mind at all.  Instead I was concerned about the inclement weather and the accidents on the highway which would likely result.  I talked with my mother, not about sex but about plans for the holiday and which relatives would be at her house and when they would arrive.  I called the office to let them know I was delayed due to the accidents on the highway.  Not once did I think about sex.

I didn’t think about sex at all this morning until I read of Mr. Weyrich’s death and ultimately, many of the stupid things he has said about homosexuals over the course of his lifetime - it was Mr. Weyrich that was preoccupied with homosexual sex in his battle against the homosexual, and his preoccupation with it was the only reason I thought of sex at all this morning.

This edition of Stupid Things People Say About Gays gave me great pause.  I couldn’t decide if I could categorize it as “stupid” or if it was just a “different way of thinking.”  My fortune cookie at lunch today did say, “Your perception will switch.”  Interesting that it didn’t say change, but “switch.”  I was momentarily reminded of the song by Fem 2 Fem from the 90’s.  “Switch, I finally tried it, feels good…”  The article I pull this quote from appeared in Christianity Today.

One gay rights slogan goes: “We’re here, we’re queer, get used to it!” National Review columnist John Derbyshire returns the challenge: “We’re here, we’re mildly and tolerantly homophobic, get used to it!” It’s false, he says, to label everyone who resists affirming homosexuality as a dangerous lunatic. We just want to be permitted to live by our convictions.

The article as a whole was very gentle and wasn’t hateful or spiteful at all.  It was written by Frederica Mathewes-Green, author of The Illuminated Heart.  As a non-christian who tries to be tolerant of Christianity, I found myself thinking - How would I feel if a Christian were to tell me “We’re Here, We’re Jesus Freaks, Get used to it.”  Well, truth of the matter is I would likely roll my eyes and tell them that at some point they need to let go of their imaginary friends and grow up.  But that would make me intolerant of a majority that is quickly becoming a minority, and as someone who believes in civil rights for all, I have to consider who is “all.”

John Derbyshire, by way of the aforementioned article, suggests that Christians “… just want to be permitted to live by their convictions.”  I almost fell for it while reading the article, but the truth is they [Christians generally] want everyone to live by their convictions.  Unlike Gay people, Christians actively recruit, which, I suppose, is part of their conviction.

Now, we can agree on something.  As Christian’s want to live by their convictions, so do homosexuals.  Up until recently, the gay agenda was a myth and homosexuals did not actively protest at churches or other religious institutions.  However, after being told to live by the Christian’s convictions or be substandard in the eyes of the Law (not the Lord), gays have had enough.  Thus, your convictions have become to mean as little to me as my convictions mean to you.  After all, I believe it was your god that said, “Do unto others” and “An eye for an eye” and “Happy is he who taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.”

Note:  Recently, a very dear friend of mine who believes herself to be a ‘Christian” became very upset with me for my use of the word.  Apparently, when making claims like “Christians don’t believe in gay marriage,” I was over generalizing.  Well, as I like to say, if the glass slipper fits… However, out of respect for my friend that believes herself to be a “Christian” and having a personal rule to never question someone’s faith, I make note here that my use of the term “Christian” applies solely to those that believe that Jesus Christ is our savior, the Bible is the verbatim word of God and that gay people are going to burn in hell.

Recently, a group of “Christians” were run out of San Francisco’s Castro District by a “Gay Mob”.  I love the elevation this story has received in calling it a “gay mob.”  Video footage of the incident shows a group of people being escorted by police while a group of homosexuals (and/or those supporting homosexual rights) are chanting things such as “stay out of our neighborhoods if you don’t like us.”  Christian right-wing organizations are appalled and outraged that they were not allowed by this mob to express their religious freedom.  Well, there’s a taste of your own medicine for you.  This incident has inspired this issue of “Stupid Things People Say About Gays”.

Cute how they tell us to “stay out of our neighbor hood if you don’t like us” My response, stay out of my country if you don’t like us! OUR country was Christian before it was filled with fags.
They are allowed to be disgusting in public, we are allowed to pray in public.

We have the last laugh in all of this, they’re the ones with no future. — genesis311311

First, I feel the need to say (although it may be considered a “bounces off me and sticks to you” sort of argument) that the welcoming of the “Christian” group into the Castro District was very similar to the welcoming bestowed upon homosexuals by “Christian” churches.  Everyone is welcome in the “Christian” church as long as you become an “ex-gay.”  The torment the “Christian” church berated on the homosexual is far more horrifying than “stay out” if you don’t like us.

Secondly, your comment stating “stay out of my country if you don’t like us” and using the argument that the United States was founded as a “Christian” nation obviously demonstrates that you have never been to a history class outside of “Christian” school (or just didn’t pay attention), never read a book not acceptable by the “Christian” teaching and have never had an independent thought which did not conform entirely to the way you are taught.  Examples of the founding of the United States not being on behalf of “Christianity” include:

• The Declaration of Independence begins, “”We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”  I note that is says “they are endowed by their Creator” rather than they are endowed by my God.  Although it is unarguable that most of the founding fathers were “Christian”, it seems that they intended to leave God out of the letter of the law.
• The United States Constitution fails entirely to mention God.  It is an obvious omission and certainly was not an error.  Most historians and even theologians believe that the omission was intended to prevent a theocracy wherein the church would have more power than the President - as was the case with the Catholic church’s involvement in politics in Europe.
• “In God We Trust” was placed on currency in the U.S. during the Civil War, not upon the founding of our Nation.
• “Under God” was not in the Pledge of Allegiance until the McCarthy era [1954] when it was added.
• The Treaty of Tripoli, signed in 1797 (note: that was not long after the 1776 “founding” of our nation) by Pickering and then President John Adams  states, “As the Government of the United States…is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion–as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility of Musselmen–and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.” [emphasis added]
• In 1786, an Act for Establishing Religious Freedom (Jefferson again) was passed in the Assembly of Virginia.  It stated, in parts:

…that our civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions…

…that the impious presumption of legislators and rulers, civil as well as ecclesiastical, who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavoring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world…

…that to suffer the civil magistrate to intrude his powers into the field of opinion and to restrain the profession or propagation of principles, on the supposition of their ill tendency, is a dangerous fallacy, which at once destroys all religious liberty, because he being of course judge of that tendency, will make his opinions the rule of judgment, and approve or condemn the sentiments of others only as they shall square with or differ from his own… [emphasis added]

…that the rights hereby asserted are of the natural rights of mankind, and that if any act shall be hereafter passed to repeal the present or to narrow its operation, such act will be an infringement of natural right.

See: “The Writings of Thomas Jefferson Memorial Edition” (ME), Andrew A. Lipscomb and Albert Ellery Bergh, Editors, 20 Volumes., Washington, D.C., 1903-04. Volume II, Appendix, pp 300-303

I highly recommend those that feel the United States was founded as a religious nation to see Our Godless Constitution, by Brooke Allen and the countless books, articles and information available (and cited above).  I also refer them to the U.S. Constitution for more precedence regarding this issue.

Content PG13 (or R for the ultra conservative):  I warn in advance that the “f” word is used in this posting.  If you are afraid of seeing one of the “seven words you can’t say on t.v.” in print, then please consider reading other posts on this site.

Sifting through all the negative stereotypes and idiotic comments regarding gay people has sent me on a path of self discovery.  During my quest, I discovered that putting hand warmers in your underwear on a cold night feels really good, I also discovered that there are short winded homophobics in the world.

An example can be found in the following quote:

fuck all faggots period.
burn in hell motherfuckers!!!!!!!!!! Shadowhound (23 years old)

This is one of my personal favorites as it truly shows how enlightened people have become.  “Fuck all faggots period.”  I can’t decide which part of that is my absolute favorite, the “Fuck all faggots” or the “period”.  The reason this is so fantastic is because if Shadowhound were to actually fuck all faggots, he would be a “faggot”.  I’ve debated whether this was intentionally idiotic or if he really did not realize that the very thing he was arguing against would result from the proposed action to stop it.

So, to you Mr. Shadowhound (and as a response to “burn in hell motherfuckers”) I say, “Pray that you’ll stop believing in God.” – certainly as oxymoronic as your proposal.

Peaceful demonstrations on the part of homosexuals took place all over the country on November 15, 2008.  The demonstrations were part of Join the Impact’s National Day of Protest.  We must remember that educating our government’s people will effectually educate our government.

But how do we change the minds of those that have spent the last 200-ish years being taught that “God hates fags” without seemingly challenging God and alienating ourselves from those that are taught “God is love”?

During a September 14, 2008 appearance with Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell stated that the fall of the Twin Towers was a result of:

“…throwing God out of the public square.  The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way — all of them who have tried to secularize America — I point the finger in their face and say, ‘You helped this happen.’

Many gays and lesbians were mortified by such comments by evangelicals after the fall of the Twin Towers and even more startled when the levees broke in New Orleans and similar accusations were made.

On November 4th California voters voted pro-chicken but anti-gay.  Was God angry?  You betcha - California is now burning.  Could this be because California voters felt that gays weren’t equal in Gods eyes?  God now seeks his vengence on California for breaching the main foundations of Christian ideology, “Love thy neighbor.”

I can imagine that evangelicals will disagree.  They will argue that God is thankful for following “his” will being done in California.  Perhaps they will even state that the cause of the fire was not God’s anger, but Satan attempting to destroy the God fearing people of California.  Or perhaps the argument will be that it is God’s anger, but not because of gays, but because the vote for Chicken’s Rights really pissed him off when chickens are clearly satanic fowl.

In this issue of Stupid Things People Say About Gays, I’m going to focus a little more on the “Gay Marriage” issue which has obtained wide news coverage over the past couple of weeks.

Focus on Families, a purportedly Christian organization, has released arguments against Gay Marriage and publishes them on their website.  The following Argument is taken directly from that site:

An even greater objective of the homosexual movement is to end the state’s compelling interest in marital relationships altogether. After marriages have been redefined, divorces will be obtained instantly, will not involve a court, and will take on the status of a driver’s license or a hunting permit. With the family out of the way, all rights and privileges of marriage will accrue to gay and lesbian partners without the legal entanglements and commitments heretofore associated with it.

This is obviously an argument of the desperate which has no fact basis whatsoever.  Last I checked, Gay Marriage did not seek to overthrow heterosexual marriage.  Certainly their have been many jokes thrown about stating that if gay’s can’t get married, heterosexuals should not be allowed to and thus the law would be equal to all parties.  Regrettably, the consequences would be all incompassing - loss of jobs resulting from no Family Court system, no “wedding planners”, less use of the local VFW hall for receptions, etc… etc…

What Focus on the Family has missed in their argument is that gays are asking for the right to GET married, not the right to dismantle marriage.  They also don’t realize that this argument completely voids the argument that marriage is not a civil issue.  They clearly state that the state has a, “compelling interest in marital relationships altogether.”  That compelling interest is exactly why all committed couples should be given the equal status of “married” by the state.

We’ve also heard a lot of comments about “redefining marriage.”  Although I can’t argue that marriage will in some ways require redefining, I do deny that any such redefinition would degrade heterosexual marriage.  This argument is a scare tactic used to propogate homophobia in the most grotesque sense - vaguely.  “You are trying to redefine marriage!!!!”  Legal definitions have changed tremedously throughout history.  Our founders smartly wrote the Constitution and Declaration of Independence so that laws could morph into a working, united, equal system.  If legal definitions did not evolve and change, the words “negro” and “colored” would still be used to define “African Americans” by law and the word “property” would still refer to African Americans.  Personally, I’m thrilled that such words are redefinable.  We the homos of the world should not let such vague allegations serve to threaten us, but embrace them - “Yes, we do want to redefine marriage, just like they redefined property.”

I can’t even fathom the accusation that divorces “will take on the status” of driver’s licenses or hunting licenses.  Is their anything intelligble in that false, completely unfounded accusation?  That allegation makes it sound as though gay people are looking to have a drive-thru wedding chapel/divorce court (which drive-thru wedding chapels already exist in Vegas without the help of gays).  Heterosexuals are doing a fine job of destroying the institution of marriage themselves.  Adding countless, loving people into the category of married will not harm, but strengthen that instutition.

In the second post exposing the stupid things people say about gays, we will analyze the following comment:

Just like it’s common sense that gay behavior is unnatural. Why can’t we just put all gays on a deserted island and see how long they last? hmon20002000
(28 years old)

Let’s start at the beginning, “…gay behavior is unnatural.” Seed Magazine took an in depth look at homosexuality in the animal kingdom, and, I believe it is indisputable (except by the illiterate) that the animal kingdom can be used to demonstrate what is natural. The study found that Giraffes, Big Horn Sheep, dolphins, killer whales, gray whales, West Indian manatees and others participate in and ejaculate from homosexual activities. Japanese macaques are lesbians, and the closest living primate to humans, the Bonobos engage in lesbian sexual encounters every 2 hours. It also explains that homosexuality has been documented in over 450 vertebrate species. That’s a lot of unnatural behavior in nature. The article is nearly 3,000 words, you can view it here. For further evidence that homosexuality naturally occurs, please watch the following video:

As to the second part of the stupid comment by hmon20002000, “Why can’t we just put all gays on a deserted island and see how long they last?” The answer is clear, we would survive a very very long time. Not only because the greatest gay anthem ever written or performed is entitled, “I Will Survive” but also because we have lesbians. I am a believer that the lesbian is the true root of the homosexual community. Lesbians, stereotypically, grow things, like herbs and corn. They know soil - and guess what, we gay men know a thing or two about plants - just ask any florist. So yes, we would eat… likely an organically grown assortment of fruits and vegetables which will keep our lipids low and we will outlive all heterosexual McDonald’s eating Americans… on our own Isle of Lesbos.

With Proposition 8 in the news, people have come out from under their rocks in droves.  With that, comes numerous, sometime unintelligible comments on various websites about gay people.  Such stereotypes and stupidity have only been fueled by the church.  Therefore, I have started a new multi-part series regarding the stupid things people say (or type) about gays.

We’ll start with a quote found on YouTube which was responsive to a Pro-Prop * LDS video:

I respect that gay people are the way they are, but why would they want to get married if they can’t reproduce? If they adopt or do other things to get a child, they could corrupt the child as well. Why would they want to inflict harm upon a child that did not do anything to deserve it?  Violist (13 years old - isn’t that cute?)

I think you’ve missed the point here.  It’s not about the civil issues of marriage, but about the benefits of German engineering.  Since the result of marriage is obviously reproduction by your standards, by allowing gay people to get married, we could then get pregnant and rightfully purchase a Volkswagen without being judged by heterosexuals for being unpregnant Volkswagen purchasers.  This inalienable right is not just for straight, pregnant women any more is it Ms. Brooke Shields?  Such extreme homophobia is evidenced in the following video: